The ‘Mage Interface’ is a name given to that ‘cubic centimeter of chance’ where productive actions can be made in this particular time and circumstances. Exactly there, in the multitude of fine details, the Mage Interface is where potential meets reality. This is precisely where transformation is caused or avoided, healing is either blocked or augmented.

Without conscious intervention, things will evolve at the ordinary speed of evolution. For life on Earth, evolution occurs mostly between generations, causing what is sometimes referred to as ‘the generation gap’. Yes, something completely different from ordinary is possible, but only through clear awareness and skillful means.

Try to imagine what an intense place the Mage Interface must be. Time is focalized into a very small NOW, exactly where potential meets detail. Evolution in any direction is imminent. The Point Of Origin becomes unpetrified. Current conditions cannot remain stable, yet the instability is not apparent because the NOW is so small. You and your future is at a Flux Point. Aliveness thrives, conducted by a million volts. It is a fine line to walk, yet capable of causing beautiful outcomes, similar to being the conductor who is improvising an orchestra assembled out of masterful musicians. Think of how much High Level Fun you can all generate by collaborating together.

At this thin but resilient interface, any Decision can be made, but only some of those decisions can be implemented in reality. Some decisions have valuable impact. It is your job to choose your Decisions wisely (even Deciding which Decisions to offer your Client).

The Mage Interface is the exact place where Nonmaterial Value can be delivered as Healing or Transformation. Here is the circuitry through which Bright Principles deliver their intelligence and energy in the world.

The world is what the world is, without Stories attached. The Bright Principles can only work on What Is. This means that Bright Principles work at the Mage Interface, but Bright Principles have their own agenda. Since as an initiated adult you are the space through which your Bright Principles do their work in the world, you can also work at the Mage Interface.

Tools that function at the Mage Interface are your Attention, your Split Attention, your Conscious Will, your Conscious Intention, your Center, Grounding Cord, and Bubble Of Space, your Point Of Origin, your Transformed Gremlin, your Archetypal Lineage, and the energetic tools from your Possibilitator Toolbelt.

Forces that may interfere with your ability to work at the Mage Interface are Assumptions, Conclusions, Stories, Expectations, Projections, Resentment, Revenge, etc.

Actions you can take at the Mage Interface include: Memetic Engineering, Sewing Up Brain Splits, Bypassing Mind Machines, Rewiring Fear, Removing Energetic Blocks, Retrieving Parts Of Your Being, Relocating your Point Of Origin, detecting Purpose, Cavitating Space, Navigating Space, landing Distinctions in the Space, Pulling The Rug Out, etc.

If you pretend to be one thing but you actually are something else then you cannot open yourself for connection with other Beings or with the Universe. This means both your heart and your soul are starving for connection. If you open yourself they will see that you are pretending. You have to keep the show going. It is a trap.

The self that you built as an adolescent produces a certain result. If you want to keep that result, don’t read this further. For your life to change you need to start over again from the beginning. If this does not work for you, then transformation does not work for you. This is a transformational path. There are plenty of other paths. Being afraid of having to start over again from nothing is an intelligent fear. Fear has intelligence. Trying to know what to do is pointless. Anybody who ‘knows what to do’ is not grounded in reality. Nobody knows what to do. Saying or thinking, “I don’t know what to do,” is a symptom of unconscious fear.

On the way from one place that is dry to another place that is dry is the middle place where you are wet lonely cold scared. Once you have started on your way, the only choice to do is to keep taking the steps. You could go back, or you could go forwards. Being afraid of being wet and cold does not help you.

Mixed emotions is not our natural condition. Mixed Emotions is not Adulthood. If you still experience Mixed Emotions, you did not actually Unmix them. Do the work. If your Emotions do not stay Unmixed, or if Low Drama does not cease due to the sheer horror of how severely Low Drama disconnects you from Being Present, then you may be a Dramaholic, and the best approach we know of is the 12 Step Program of Dramaholics Anonymous.

By many measures, staying on the imminent edge of multiple possible creations is completely insane. But this is what you get. You get to be at this edge. You do not ever have to leave this edge. There are plenty reasons to stop, to go away from the edge, to pretend, to put the show back on.

Pain occurs at the mage interface between what is possible and what is now in current reality. It is a special sort of pain called longing, wistfulness, a sense of the miraculous in every day life.

Locating the Mage Interface requires slowing down, shrinking how big your here is, actually being with exactly what is, as it is, without stories attached. This is where you have leverage. Speak from your own experience even if you never had the experience before, speaking in present time experiential reality. This is not self-referenced. It is experience referenced. Let the experience speak for itself.

You have internal impediments blocking you from finding and working with the Mage Interface. Most of these can be bypassed by Decontaminating your Adult Egostate. For example, when urges come such as, "I want everything. I want to be everywhere. I don’t want to miss anything. These come from the Child Egostate contaminating the Adult Egostate. What is required is fierce Decontamination.

There is a way to notice what is really going on, to notice what you are noticing, and share it. Fine sensing in five-bodies is the basis of encountering the Mage Interface. Don’t try to do anything about it at this point. Simply sense the interface between what is and what is possible. It is where two media meet, where the waves meet the shore, where the rubber meets the road.

"Indirect work is building the capacity in people to consistently think at higher levels in order to create innovations for advancing specific contexts and streams of activity. This capacity allows us to become instruments for the regeneration and evolution of the living systems within which we are nested—to become effective change agents.

"For example, every time we try to solve a problem, dividing it into its components to understand it better, seeking to figure out its causes in order to address them, we fall under the spell of classical mechanics. Every time we translate something into a replicable (and therefore scalable) procedure or recipe, we’ve stepped into a machine universe. This is so pervasive in Western and now global culture that it becomes invisible to us. It can be very difficult to get our minds to shake off this continually reinforced pattern in order to question our fundamental shared beliefs about how the universe works.

 

"Earlier I said that this book was addressed to well-intentioned people who seek to make the world a better place through the instruments that are available to them, such as business, social activism, or creation of policies and institutions. I also said that most of these efforts are likely to be compromised or fail because they still operate from an old paradigm, within which the world is assembled from discrete pieces, each playing its part in a cosmic machine. Our machine-based metaphors are so pervasive that we hardly notice them: input, output, feedback, leverage, rewiring, reprogramming, metrics, ideal state, and on and on.

A living or regenerative paradigm has a very different character and uses correspondingly different metaphors. It starts with an image of the living, dynamic, and unfolding universe, in which each entity is endowed with the spark of life and an innate capacity for growth and evolution with regard to how it expresses itself. Working from this paradigm, one doesn’t attempt to push the world and its inhabitants to an ideal state—that would be coercive and life denying. Rather, one encourages and enables living beings to discover and express their innate potential as contributors to living communities. For those of us who truly want to transform the world, it is the regenerative paradigm that will enable us to do so.

 

"This confronts us with an important question. Are the underlying beliefs, assumptions, patterns, and language that characterize my culture derived from a machine or a living systems paradigm? And if I want to cultivate a living systems culture, what must I do I to help with the shift? (note – Carol answers this question in our conversation!)

 

"Consciousness is the necessary antidote to our overwhelming tendency to engage in automatic habits of thought and behavior. In its absence, these habits extend to the most general reaches of our collective understanding of the universe, itself, conceived of by Western Europeans in the time of the Renaissance as a giant clockwork. This peculiarity of regional imagination has now become the dominant paradigm of reality worldwide. As such, it has created a self-reinforcing loop in which the mechanistic universe is reflected in the conceptualization of our bodies and minds as biological machines and our institutions as social machines. Thus, we invent mechanistic metaphors and processes for educating and healing ourselves. In other words, we resort to conditioning, a default approach that is precisely the opposite of living free, self-determined human lives. And, in a mechanical feedback process, this conditioning reinforces the already prevalent tendency toward automatism.

 

"But the process of accretion of information and action, no matter how comprehensive, will never on its own generate the shift in perspective that allows us to engage with a living whole. If anything, the tendency to aggregate and integrate only serves to reinforce the problems associated with fragmentation. This is because it derives its raw materials from the underlying practice of breaking things down into parts in order to understand them before attempting to reassemble them into something that makes sense.

 

"I could see that nearly all of the world’s conflicts grew out of a binary or polarized view of reality: good/evil, right/left, male/female, white/black, profit/loss, owner/worker, wealth/poverty, future/past, energy/matter, ones/zeros. Business, politics, psychology, and even religion were all busy trying to shift things from one column to the other within a zero-sum universe where one person’s gain was inevitably another’s loss. Or, when they weren’t seeking to win the game, they were seeking to maintain its equilibrium through careful compromises and the balancing of powers—complementarity rather than polarity.

 

"Faced with the ubiquity of this way of thinking, I realized that the way out of its dead ends had to do with the power of three-ness in a two-force world. In my flash of insight, genuine creativity came from not accepting the rules of win and lose. Rather, one had to see the dynamic tensions between opposing forces as the sources of evolutionary energy. This required stepping outside of the polarity in order to recognize its potential within a larger context. Stepping outside introduced a new, third force, one that was not bound by the terms of the conflict but could embrace both sides (or multiple sides, for that matter) as contributors to a new possibility."

- Carol Sanford, from her book, Indirect Work.

1. Cavitating, Holding, Navigating, and shifting Purpose of Spaces, adding people to Spaces, taking people out of Spaces, and destroying finished Transformational Spaces.

2. Surfing multidimensional chaos while remaining centered and grounded.

3. Dissolving holes in the perception-walls of Spaces, either in yourself, or, if requested, in others, and going through those holes (together or alone) into new possibilities. Putting stakes into the new territory so you can find that particular Space and return to it later.

4. New uses for Reminding Factors.

5. Using your own perceptions and fear to create less security for your Box (security from assumptions, expectations, unfulfilled childhood needs, projections, etc.)

6. What timing is appropriate to be prepared for various initiations (e.g. When is an organization prepared to do sustain distilling their Bright Principles?)

7. Creating or detecting leverage points or diving-off points for transformational Processes or Doorways. Should you go through or not? What can someone handle?

8. Scanning for Gateways either in people or in spaces or places. (e.g. gateways for journeying into the Earth)

9. How to invoke the presence of Consciousness and the presence of Being in a space. Then how to make use of it.

10. What are the systems of initiations?

11. How to discover that the key to the Box is on the inside. How to help people help you discover the keys to their Box.

12. Putting your attention over there and testing what is possible there.

13. Memetic engineering – talking with Boxes so the Boxes can see themselves or experience themselves as something else. For example, one man had the thoughtware that if he is to trust someone it must be forever. In other words, he would not trust something that is not permanent. Therefore he trusted nothing and no one. He changed his thoughtware to limiting his trust to a smaller now, and now, and now. It made him more alive and his trust more realistic.

14. Using the gap in space between spaces in the Great Labyrinth of Spaces as a wormhole for navigating and shifting spaces from one set of possibilities to spaces with another set of possibilities.

15. Mapping onto other people’s 5 bodies to enter the present with them.

16. Diagramming love happening or not happening in a Organizational Love Diagram. For example:

a. Who does this person love?

b. Who irritates you?

c. Who is invisible to you?

d. Who loves this person?

e. Who does this person irritate?

f. Who ignores this person?

17. Talking through the Box to the Being.

18. Healing 'witch burnings' on a deeper level personal level, and also on an organizational level: the witch burning phenomena in the organization. What triggers it? How to get burned as a witch? How to avoid it? How to go to the next organizational level?

19. Facing into sexual energetics and monogamy in groups.

20. Bringing background conversations into the foreground: putting the shit on the table. Saying what has to be said.

21. Giving people what they want vs. giving people what they need. What serves? What kind of results are you trying to create?

22. Negotiating 5-body intimacies with an organization.

23. Culture shift actions. The evolution of consciousness. Legend making and alchemical experiments. Shifting global stories.

24. How to meet resistance with a vacuum. Techniques of using vacuum as a transformational force. Creating and presenting the void.

25. Delivering your work, living your life, without fitting in.

26. Using group intelligence to find further clarifications on your work and your way.

27. Designing and implementing transformational Experiments.

28. Collaborating with others for the well-being of all.

29. Your connection and service to Gaia.

30. How it works that one person projects someone else on another person and how to transform this into an evolution of consciousness initiatory or healing process.

31. High level Gremlin defenses (Gremlin Self-Cannibalism, Gremlin Violence, Dramaholic) and what to do about them.

32. Populating new territory with action steps and fields of Being.

33. Recharging your deep batteries with Bright Principles during training spaces.

34. Sharpening the fineness of your considerations and introspections – what is really going on.

35. Weaving critical connections between communities of practice to build a field of influence for the emergence of Archiarchy.

36. Accidentally knowing what you are doing.

37. Teaching others how to navigate into rare spaces - Possibilitator Skills

38. How does your intention and the space determine what is possible, and what to do about it.

39. How to create questions that shift one space into another space. Developing and apply the power of Asking.

40. Building Possibilitator Torus Circles in other countries – something from nothing.

41. How to read what is happening for others through being more and more yourself.

42. Creating gifts and treasures out of chaotic underworld transformational Processes – the magic of wrapping things up.

43. Splitting Your Attention between NOW and the pathways of diligence to various possible futures, and distinguishing what it takes to get there.

44. Checking on the strength and weakness of your Clarity (sword) and the strength and weakness of your vulnerable sensing Presence (chocolate). What is in the way, and what to do about it?

45. Lizard Brain healing tools and processes.

46. Process: “I have this great idea!”

47. Applying improvisational forces in everyday life moments to navigate to extraordinary and archetypal spaces.

48. Sheep, pigs, wolves, and gameworld builders.

49. Facing the world’s circumstances of the early 21st Century without despair.

50. Healing blocks to ecstatic creating.

51. Standing in your outlandish profession with Authority, and delivering your transformational promises.

52. Practicing your favorite bizarre skills to absurd levels of effectiveness.